Why do so many data and AI investments struggle to show a return? In this episode of the Data Masterclass Podcast, host Aleksejs Plotnikovs talks with Nadiem von Heydebrand about the question that led him to found Mindfuel: “When do I get my money back?”
Nadiem shares how years of data strategy consulting and a phone call with co-founder Max Könnings led to Mindfuel’s product-led approach to data and AI.
The two also discuss:
- why value starts with the business problem and not the solution
- how to turn “blue money” use cases into “green money” use cases that show up in the P&L
- how to attribute value from use cases back to models, data products and platforms
- what AI means for the future of enterprise SaaS
A practical listen for data and AI leaders who need to prove the impact of their work to the CFO.
Originally recorded and published by Data Masterclass.



